The criticism of the authenticators on PF is constant but we won't repeat the claims since we don't use that kind of language. We think - the logic over at PFA, if it can be called that, since it makes no sense - goes like this.
a) they authenticate from pics which PFA claims no one can do
b) then the moderators supposedly say a bag is fake so that they can scoop it up for themselves. Or
c) they direct the potential buyer to a reseller they work in cahoots with and then get a cut of the profit.
Okaaaay. That's PFAs view of the world.
Having looked now at all of the authentication threads on PF (and yes, we're tired), someone please show us evidence that any of this is actually happening? We just aren't seeing it. And why is it that PFA insists on putting up photos and calling the items fake when ... well, see point a) you can't authenticate a bag from photos. Quick! Tell that to the authentication services we found online who seem to do just that!
And at the end of the day, if all those people care so very very much about fakes, great! Let them get involved to help stamp them out where it matters - at flea markets and local stores. There are places you can go online funded by the luxury and fashion industries that will give you more info. The bag on some stranger's arm (or computer screen)? Not your business.
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posted on EF by Donna aka the duchessofh, aka Hermesmerized:
Topic: Opinions needed. What do you think of this Kelly?
Posted: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:13:10 PM
"I don't know if you already purchased this Kelly? I don't have any experience with this particular skin; but I do think this bag looks good.
I'm no expert; but I am very suspicious and tend to think everything is fake! lol. I even counted the visible stitches on this photo as compared to my own croc Kelly28, and in places the difference is only one stitch. Hermes uses a tool to mark the thread holes, so it there will never be much of a difference in the number of stitches.
It's too bad you don't have a close up of the engraving in the hardware; but the shape of this bag looks right, and the position of the handle appears correct.
I can't imagine anyone going to these lengths to fake a sellier Kelly, since it is a difficult bag to make.
If you do purchase it you can always send it to H for verification. They will send it to NY or Paris, and it may take a while before they inform you as to it's authenticity; but they won't destroy it if it turns out to be fake."
Donna, you are correct, after all you only own a few Hermes bags therefore, you are no expert in authenticating. Plus, you think EVERYTHING is fake!
When was Mr Tonello logical anyway? Look at his comments to Jason85 on the styleforum. Apparently Jason did not recognize something belong to his alma mater, ergo Jason never went there.
Sequence of events:
Jason:{explanation}
MT:You never went there. You never went there. You're a liar!
Jason:{More explanation}
MT:You never went there. You never went there! You're a liar!
Jason:{says he's tired of this crap}
MT: You never went there. You never went there!! You're a liar!
See anything similar in the logic process? No matter what anyone says, PFA aka Michael Tonello says "it's a fake. (insert nyah, nayh sound here) it's a fake. it's a fake" Is there any sort of logical process going on in his brain? I'd say not. he probably had abysmal scores in that part of the SATs.
Of course there's no logic to PFA's arguments. It's published by an MT brain!
There is no logic or rationality to Michael Tonello's and Donna Lehtonen's recurrent abuse of their victims. They make cyberstalking a spectator sport putting it all out there on PFA. They want the attention. At innocent people's expense. Calling out members' bags as fakes when they are not, stems from their innate desire to humiliate and create doubt. They say it like they know for a fact. But of course they don't. It's in their mind that they WISH the bags fakes though. So that means they live in the delusion that they are the ONLY privileged ones in the world who know the real Hermes. Shallow enough for you?
Dedicated to Donna - http://twistedsifter.com/2011/01/the-most-expensive-house-in-toronto-canada/
When you think you're wealthy and want to put others down, think that there will always be others who are wealthier and what more. We would all be miserable beings if we compare, and worse if we flame others for their luck in life.
Amusing too that the house belongs to Robert (Herjavec). This Bob looks like a great guy.
"See anything similar in the logic process? No matter what anyone says, PFA aka Michael Tonello says "it's a fake. (insert nyah, nayh sound here) it's a fake. it's a fake""
"It's a fake, it's a fake, (sticks fingers in ears) nya, nya, I ain't listening, nya, nya it's a fake, it's a fake, you can't catch me"
Playground bully, much?
Anonymous said...
Dedicated to Donna - http://twistedsifter.com/2011/01/the-most-expensive-house-in-toronto-canada/
When you think you're wealthy and want to put others down, think that there will always be others who are wealthier and what more. We would all be miserable beings if we compare, and worse if we flame others for their luck in life.
Amusing too that the house belongs to Robert (Herjavec). This Bob looks like a great guy.
April 16, 2011 9:48 PM
Nice house and decorated with taste, unlike the duchessofh. The duchess's house is decorated with garbage left at the curb for trash pick-up. I mean two throw rugs at $39.95 each, OMG!
Nooo .. You think Donna Lehtonen was so innocent in posting about her rugs? When I read it, I thought it queer that she would even post about her mistakes in life. She's all Miss Perfect. So I read it again. Lightbulb went on. She meant to diss the people who would only be able to afford a rug of that price. (There's nothing wrong with a $39.95 rug.) And went on to suggest that it's just too cheap for her and that she's the wealthy one, who can afford a more expensive one.
Didn't someone say money can't buy taste?
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